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		<title>We Saw Him (part 19)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) These will be the last two stories in this series of posts regarding those who witnessed the Savior that I will share. Next week I will follow up with some concluding thoughts. Young boy from Utah This boy was born with a genetic condition causing the <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-19/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 18)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-18/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><em>These will be the last two stories in this series of posts regarding those who witnessed the Savior that I will share. Next week I will follow up with some concluding thoughts.</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><img class="alignright  wp-image-5737" title="Jesus-FaceSculpt1" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Jesus-FaceSculpt1.jpg" alt="" width="360" height="540" />Young boy from Utah</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em>This boy was born with a genetic condition causing the muscles of the body to gradually get weaker. Because of this he had never walked but had spent all of his life confined to a wheelchair and in constant pain and discomfort. His pain was not just physical, but emotional as well. He had a very hard time watching other children his age do things he could not do. He felt very left out and alone. Because of his condition he developed severe scoliosis and a surgery was performed to straighten his spine by putting rods in his back. These rods would then be lengthened every six months, as he grew, so that he could grow like other boys and his lungs could expand. Surgeries were also performed to cut the tendons in his hips and knees so that his legs would straighten. The down side to all of this was the constant pain of having rods in his back, daily physical therapy for his legs, and surgeries twice a year until his body was fully grown, at which time permanent rods would be inserted. He had a lot of bad days and sad days wondering why he was born and why he had to go through all of this pain. He always knew to whom he could turn and he developed a great love for his heavenly Father and Savior. Once, when he was about nine or ten-years-old, he had the following experience:</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I was having a bad day and I wanted to go and pray! When I was in bed I said my prayers and told Heavenly Father my feelings. A couple of hours later, I saw a huge bright light—it was so bright…the whole room lit up—and I knew that it was Jesus. He called me by name and said to me that it was okay and that I would be with them soon. He then told me that when I would die that I would see a bright light and I was to go to that light and that someone would be there to meet me. I felt happy and the Spirit was so strong. When He spoke to me I did not see His lips moving but I heard His voice in my mind and my heart. I felt his words. His voice felt soft, really comfortable in my heart. I felt so good. It was incredible!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I remember being kind of confused at first. It’s a really slim chance that someone gets to meet Jesus in this life. It was fascinating that this slim chance had happened to me.”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Teenage boy from Arizona</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em>“When I was growing up I did not have a good childhood. My father was quite abusive on many levels and there were many times I wanted out! I prayed often for relief, for an end to it all.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I was a good kid but I wasn&#8217;t perfect. I tried to do what was right but I could have been better. I loved the Lord and loved learning about the gospel. But an experience I had changed me. One night, when I was about fifteen-years-old, as I slept I remember finding myself in a room that was pure white. There were others in the room besides me and all were dressed in white robes. I did not see their faces but we were all standing waiting for something. It was then that a being entered the room, and although I did not see His face, I knew instantly by the power of the Spirit that this was the Savior. His spirit was so strong that we all fell to our knees. I will never forget that feeling! As I knelt He came by me and, touching me on the shoulder, asked me to stand. I stood, His arm around my back with His hand on my right shoulder. He then asked me a question, a question I will never forget. It was so simple, and yet, so powerful, so profound. It has changed my life. He simply asked, in a kind, loving, and soft voice, ‘What have you done?’ It was asked in a voice filled with love&#8230;no anger, no judgment, no harshness, simply love. I felt how much He loved me. Everything I had done to that point filled my mind. All things, both good and bad. All of my life, to that point, passed before my eyes in one second. It was as if He was asking me to remember all the good and bad I had ever done or thought so that I could be better! No hint of condemnation, just love! It was then that I woke up. The spirit was so strong that I could not move for several minutes. I felt weak. I didn&#8217;t want to move for fear that the feeling would go away. After a few minutes I regained my strength but the power of His voice and the power of His question has never left me.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“This experience has had a profound impact on me. It has been a source of strength and comfort to me over the years because I <strong><em>know</em></strong> that the Savior lives. I <strong><em>know</em></strong> it. As I breathe I know it. And even though there have been many hard and difficult times in my life, times that I have wanted to quit and give up, I knew that I never could because I <strong><em>know</em></strong>, as the sun rises, that He lives. I cannot and will never forget the feel of His arm around me and the love I felt in a sacred place when I heard Him speak my name and when I felt of His love. When the scriptures say that ‘God is love,’ I testify that it is true.”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #666699;">(to be concluded <a title="We Saw Him (part 20)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-20/"><strong>next week</strong>…</a>)</span></p>
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		<title>We Saw Him (part 18)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 23:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) This week, as a follow-up to last week’s post, I am choosing to share another part of Jeff’s book, with his permission. And while it may be a little long for a blog post, it is one of the most touching, enlightening experiences I have ever <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-18/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 17)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-17/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<div id="attachment_5710" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 347px"><img class=" wp-image-5710    " title="Jeff Olsen" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/JeffOlsen.jpg" alt="" width="337" height="419" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Jeff Olsen</p></div>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><em>This week, as a follow-up to last week’s post, I am choosing to share another part of Jeff’s book, with his permission. And while it may be a little long for a blog post, it is one of the most touching, enlightening experiences I have ever read. You’ll remember that Jeff’s wife, Tamara, and their one-year-old baby son, Griffin, had been killed in the car accident that brought Jeff to the hospital and resulted in him losing one of his legs. Well, just after the accident, while Jeff’s body was still in the mangled vehicle, Jeff’s spirit had gone to the other side of the veil and had a tender, emotionally charged conversation with Tamara’s spirit. Now, about four months later, Jeff’s hospital stay was nearing an end.</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br />
</span></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em><strong>JEFF OLSEN (part 2)</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em>“…I would be returning home soon&#8230;.I was off my medications, and my body had mended in miraculous ways. As [my brother, who was visiting me, and I] talked, I became tired and soon faded off into a deep sleep. It was more peaceful than most nights. I felt calm, comfortable, and free of pain. As I slept, I dreamed again. But this was a real and vivid dream. I found myself in that <em>place</em> again, that place of love, light, and peace where I had said good-bye to Tamara right after the accident. I knew this place like no other. The feeling was so overwhelmingly joyful&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“&#8230;.I was alone this time. No one came to greet me or guide me, and I marveled at the indescribable beauty around me. It was vast and open and beautiful. I could feel, touch, and taste everything as if I had not five but fifty senses. It was amazing.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“As I walked, on two healthy strong legs, I entered into a long hallway. It was a lovely corridor that seemed to stretch forward almost into eternity, yet I moved down it rapidly and with ease. I saw where it came to a stop, and at the end of the hallway was a baby crib. I rushed to the crib, and peeking in, saw something beyond joyful.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“There lying in the crib was my son. It was little Griffin! He was alive and well. He slept peacefully. I looked at him and took in every detail. How his chubby little hands lay so peacefully beside his perfect face. How his mouth drew breath, raising his small back up and down. How is hair lay gently across the tops of his ears. I reached into the crib and swept him up into my arms. I could feel the warmth from his little body. I could feel his breath on my neck and the smell of his delicate hair. He was so familiar and so alive! I held him close and cried tears of joy as I laid my cheek against his soft little head as we had always done. I felt him breathing as he snuggled into me. His ribs rising and falling with each inhale and exhale. Not only did I feel him physically, but I also felt him spiritually. Every cell of his perfect little body was full of light and life. I felt the energy of his soul and how connected we were. I was his dad. I had taken part in creating him. He was perfect.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“It was Griffin! He was alive, and I was with him, holding him in this wonderful place. It was real, even super real. I had never felt anything so intense. We were tangible. I could feel his body solidly against mine. I felt the life in each of my own cells as they melted together with his in a love exceeding our earthly bond.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I sobbed with joy, holding my little son. I closed my tear-filled eyes and breathed in how he smelled and how he felt and how everything seemed to disappear except us. I simply held him, basking in the moment, and as I did, I felt something or someone move up behind me. The feeling coming from this being was so powerful and yet so loving that it almost startled me. I felt light and love engulf me. I knew I was standing in the presence of someone so eternal and so powerful, yet so personal.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I did not dare turn around to look. I stood there holding my son, taking in the intense feeling. The being behind me had so much light, so much love, and so much power. I knew I was in the presence of God. Still, I did not turn around. I stood there holding Griffin and feeling the overwhelming love of a Father standing behind me. I could feel His everlasting, unconditional love. It was as real as the love I felt for my own little son.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Slowly, this magnificent, divine being of light stepped closer, so close that I could feel His light surround us. His wisdom was overwhelming. I felt His physical presence in the same way I was feeling Griffin. Every cell of my body filled with truth and knowledge beyond anything I’d ever felt before. As I held my son, this beautiful being, filled with the wisdom of eternity, moved close enough to hold me. I was standing there holding my son and being embraced myself by deity. He leaned into me and whispered into my ear. His voice, though a whisper, was powerful. Not only did I hear it, I felt it through my entire being. He told me things I do not have the words to write and could never do justice to even if I did. I learned more in that brief encounter than I could have been taught in many lifetimes. And yet it didn’t feel like learning. It was more like remembering. I knew this as it flowed through me. I saw purpose in every event of my entire life. I saw how every circumstance had been divinely provided for my learning and development. I had the realization that I had actually taken part in creating every experience of my life. I knew I had come to this earth for only one reason, which was to learn, and that everything that had ever happened to me had been a loving step in that process of my progression. Every person, every circumstance, and every incident was custom created for me. It was as if the entire universe existed for my higher good and development. I felt so loved, so cherished, and so honored. I realized that not only was I being embraced by deity, but also that I myself was divine, and that we all are. I knew that there are no accidents in this life&#8230;.Yet we always get to choose how we will experience what happens to us here.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I could exercise my will in everything, even in how I felt about the wreck and the death of my family members. God didn’t want me to hurt and feel put upon as if my son and wife had been <em>taken</em> from me. He was simply there assisting me to decide how I was going to experience it. He was providing me with the opportunity, in perfect love, to exercise my personal agency in this entire situation.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I knew my wife and son were gone. They had died months earlier, but time didn’t exist where I was at that moment. Rather than having them ripped away from me, I was being given the opportunity to actually hand them over to God. To let them go in peace, love, and gratitude. Everything suddenly made sense. Everything had divine order. I could give my son to God and not have him taken away from me.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I felt my power…to literally let go of all that had happened to me. I held my baby son as God Himself held me. I experienced the oneness of all of it. Time did not matter. Only love and order existed. Tamara and Griffin had come into my life as perfect teachers. And in leaving me in such a way, they continued as perfect teachers to bring me to that point of remembering who I was. Remembering that I was created in God’s image and actually came from Him. I was aware now that I could actually walk with God, empowered by what I was learning in my life. I felt the divine energy of the being behind me inviting me to let it all go and give Griffin to Him. In all that peace and knowledge, I hugged my little boy tightly one last time, kissed him on the cheek, and gently laid him back down in the crib. I willingly gave him up. No one would ever take him away from me again. He was mine. We were one, and I was one with God.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“As soon as I breathed in all that peace, I awoke, back into the…darkness of my hospital bed, but with greater perspective. I marveled at what I had just experienced. It was not just a dream. It felt too real. It was real to me&#8230;.Griffin was alive in a place more real than anything here. And Tamara was there with him. I knew it.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“As the years have passed, I’ve often wondered how I could have put my son back in the crib the way I did. Maybe I should have held on and never let go. But in that place, it all made sense.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I realized that no one ever really dies. We always live on. I had experienced a God as real and tangible as we are. He knows our every heartache, yet allows us to experience and endure them for our growth. His is the highest form of love; He allows us to become what we will&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“My experience showed me purpose and order. I knew there was a master plan far greater than my limited earthly vision. I also learned that my choices were mine alone to make. I got to decide how I felt, and that made all the difference in the universe. Even in this tragedy, I got to determine the outcome. I could choose to be a victim of what had happened or create something far greater”</span> <span style="color: #800080;">(<em>I Knew Their Hearts</em>, [Cedar Fort, Inc, 2012], pp. 84-88)</span><span style="color: #000000;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #666699;">(to be <a title="We Saw Him (part 19)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-19/"><strong>continued</strong>…</a>)</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) This week, as a follow-up to last week’s post, I choose to share a few more of Elane Durham’s words about her experience while she was in the presence of Christ. What she learned from the Savior feels very useful to me in how I view <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-15/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 14)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-14/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><em>This week, as a follow-up to last week’s post, I choose to share a few more of Elane Durham’s words about her experience while she was in the presence of Christ. What she learned from the Savior feels very useful to me in how I view myself and others, and I hope it will therefore be useful to you.</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><img class="alignright  wp-image-5657" title="Christ-blueyes2" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Christ-blueyes2.jpg" alt="" width="385" height="336" />ELANE DURHAM (part 2)</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em>“In [the] context [of being completely forgiven by the Lord] I was made aware that Christ knew and understood every single aspect of the incestuous abuse perpetrated upon me by my father. Yet I not only felt my Redeemer’s complete love and acceptance of me in spite of this, for I could finally see absolutely that it had not been my fault—but I was also allowed to feel His unconditional love for my father, which gave me great peace.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I do not mean to imply that my father’s actions toward me were excused, for I knew they were not. In fact they were terrible sins for which he was absolutely accountable, and which he will one day need to acknowledge and deal with before he can have any sort of eternal peace such as I was then experiencing. But still Christ loved him perfectly, and I knew that through the power of that love my dad, if he chose, could one day be redeemed.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“In connection with that, for years I had felt tremendous guilt over my inability to get along with my mother. But now Christ allowed me to see how the estrangement between us had never been of my making, or by my choice. I was shown how my mother had been raised under the firm, Victorian hand of my grandmother, who had never taught her how to show or give love. I also saw how Mom, who had been two years old when her own father had died, had been pretty much fed and clothed and ‘cared for’ by her older siblings, and that two of them—brothers—had molested her. Thus she, like myself, had gone through abuse that was not of her own making, and had carried great shame and guilt through her own life. And oh, how my heart went out to her when I was given the knowledge of that.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Again, however, accountability entered into this, for although Mother was in no way accountable for what had been done to her, she nevertheless carried the burden of her own choices, her own actions, just as I had done. In other words, she was accountable for what she had done to me. And like my father, to experience the peace I was then experiencing she would need to turn to Christ and work through her sins and mistakes.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I had also felt like a failure because of the breakup of my marriage to my abusive first husband. But now, encircled in Christ’s love, I saw this man in a whole new light, and my guilt was erased as I came to realize that nothing I could have done would have saved that marriage. The man himself, I saw, had been severely abused by his alcoholic father. Thus, in his adulthood he was re-enacting the same sorts of things his father had done to him, seeking always [to have] the control that had been denied him as a child. And no matter what I would have done, or how I might have behaved, it would not have stopped his own headlong rush toward destruction.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Seeing these things and events gave me understanding, and they also healed my pain by allowing me to forgive those who had been unjust with me. Here I had been feeling shame and guilt for things that I had no control over. But when Christ spoke to me telling me that these events I had felt so heavy-hearted over were not of my own making, but were instead the results of how I had been raised and the society that I had lived in, I was able to understand His words completely. And though by no means had I lived a perfect life, I knew that my sins and mistakes had been forgiven, and could not, therefore, keep me away from God’s love.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“[In fact,] He loved me regardless of them, and beyond that, regardless of what I had ever hoped to be or do….</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“’What have you done for your fellow man?’ Christ asked again….</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I knew then that the Savior wanted me to understand that His question had to do, not with worldly things, but with how much honest and sincere love I had given to others, especially when it was hard for me to love them….</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I knew of His desire that I become as Him. That was why He had asked twice, ‘What have you done for your fellow man?’ He showed me through His own life and atonement that everything about our lives, on earth as well as in the premortal realms…had to do with our relationships with others….</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“[And] if I have assisted others in any way by making their lives better, even for a moment…then I will be rewarded with…spiritual power and…become more Christ-like.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I realized that I learn to love others through serving them….[Christ] had served me perfectly by willingly suffering and even joyfully giving His own life in my behalf, with no one but God to reward Him for it….</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…we are all children of our Father in Heaven, sisters and brothers, and because of that relationship [we each] hold a responsibility for everyone else. Individuals who understand this use their spiritual and physical gifts to bless and give comfort to the lives of everyone around them”</span> <span style="color: #800080;">(<em>I Stand All Amazed</em>, [Granite Publishing, 1998], pp. 33-46)</span><span style="color: #000000;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #666699;">(to be <a title="We Saw Him (part 16)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-16/"><strong>continued</strong>…</a>)</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) ELANE DURHAM In the middle of an October night in Chicago, Elane Durham suffered her first seizure, which was caused by the rupture of an unknown tumor in her brain. Over the course of the next hour, Elane would have ten more seizures while being transported <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-14/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 13)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-13/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><img class="alignleft  wp-image-5631" title="Christ-blueeyes" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Christ-blueeyes1.jpg" alt="" width="358" height="324" />ELANE DURHAM</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em></em></em>In the middle of an October night in Chicago, Elane Durham suffered her first seizure, which was caused by the rupture of an unknown tumor in her brain. Over the course of the next hour, Elane would have ten more seizures while being transported to the hospital and while in the ER. She was experiencing ventricular fibrillation, where her heart was fluttering instead of beating. This starved her brain for oxygen, which increased the seizures. The seizures would in turn prevent Elane from breathing, which starved her heart for oxygen, and which increased the ventricular fibrillation. She was in a vicious cycle that was quickly leading to her death. Elane tells us:</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Then my spirit was free of my body, and I felt myself lifting.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I…knew a ‘part of me’ was being left on the gurney, but at that moment I felt a great indifference toward it&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“In fact, I felt more alive than I could ever remember feeling. I now had expanded senses, and I could see things so very clearly!&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I saw a bright light in the distance&#8230;.My spirit lifted and somehow rose toward this beacon which was emanating rays through its halos, though I had no idea of how I was moving&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Looking upward…I realized that the light was traveling toward me just as I was moving toward it, and it was moving at a great speed. As we came closer together…I realized that there was a personality to this light. I also felt an immense love from it, a different kind of love than I had ever felt before, love that was completely overwhelming. And wonder of all wonders, I knew that I was being welcomed to come closer&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“As I got closer to the light I heard a voice—but…not with my ears alone. It was as if everything that I was, every particle of my being, was absorbing what I heard. I not only heard the voice, but I <em>felt</em> it as He spoke to me saying, ‘Through me you have Eternal Life.’&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“In awe I drew nearer…until I saw in the light’s core the outline of a Man—a glorious Being apparently made of light that seemed more golden in color than the radiance that shown all about Him. And though I thought of Him as light, He certainly had all the physical aspects and substance of a man. I saw His hands, His arms, His body, His neck, His head—I even noted His facial characteristics, though I am at a loss to describe them now. Yet withal He was a Being of power and glorious light so incredible that I could not really comprehend Him.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“But I do remember His eyes! They were so clear and bright—yet there was color to them—a beautiful blue color outlined in deeper blue that made me think of the color of the distant ocean on a clear day. But it wasn’t so much the color of His eyes as it was the power in them that awed me. Those fathomless eyes penetrated my very soul. They <em>knew</em> me beyond anything I was ever capable of knowing about myself—and to my absolute and dumbfounded amazement, still He loved me&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I knew then that I had been with Him before, for I absolutely recognized Him. I knew that I had dwelt, with my same exact identity, in an eternal life or existence prior to my mortal life, and in that existence I had come to know this glorious Being thoroughly and even intimately. That is both why and how I knew that the voice I had heard and felt, as well as the Being I was now gazing upon, was…the Lord Jesus Christ.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“But that sure and certain knowledge of who Christ was, completely humbled me. I had always thought of myself as unworthy of any sort of communication with God, and yet here I was, being drawn into His presence. Even while it was happening I found myself struggling to believe, to comprehend that it was happening to me&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“’What have you done for your fellow man?’ He asked me then with His wordless communication, and instantly my entire life was before my eyes. It wasn’t like I was seeing a movie, with scenes laid out in sequence. Instead it was somehow all at once, so that many different aspects of my life were laid out for me to see and contemplate all in the same instant. And in that same instant I chose, because of all the trauma and abuse I had experienced, to focus on every incident for which I felt guilt and shame. These, I was certain, would cause Him to release me and turn away from me.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“But no, that didn’t happen. Instead He told me that every single aspect of my guilt and shame had either been forgiven by Him already because of my repentance, or had come about because of how I had been raised or treated, and had not, therefore, been of my choice. As I struggled to understand this He reminded me that I had never turned my back on God, but had daily sought Him, begging for forgiveness for the sins I had committed, and pleading for His presence in my life. Now, I realized abruptly, those prayers and pleadings were being answered.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“And then, wonder of all wonders, and in direct confirmation of His words, Christ raised His hand and somehow brought me instantly and completely into the light of His glory.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…With incredible tenderness He made me part of His eternal presence…and I felt a perfect joy such as I’ve never known, either before or since. I knew that my Lord knew me…and yet despite what He knew of me He loved me infinitely more than I could comprehend&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Being encircled within His love I was able, for the first time in my life, to completely forgive myself. I had to, for I could not in any way oppose how Christ felt about me. Unconditionally I was loved, completely had I been forgiven, and perfectly was I understood. And…I was able to feel the same way about myself as He did” <span style="color: #800080;">(Elane Durham, <em>I Stand All Amazed</em>, [Granite Publishing, 1998], pp. 15-33)</span>.</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 00:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) MIKE from Utah When Mike was about nine years old, he went on a weekend hunting trip with a seventeen-year-old neighbor boy, and two adults. On Saturday morning they hiked up to a ridge in the mountains until they came to a cliff, then climbed around <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-13/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 12)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-12/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><img class="alignleft  wp-image-5590" title="Jesus-FaceSculpt2" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Jesus-FaceSculpt2.jpg" alt="" width="346" height="311" />MIKE from Utah</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em></em>When Mike was about nine years old, he went on a weekend hunting trip with a seventeen-year-old neighbor boy, and two adults. On Saturday morning they hiked up to a ridge in the mountains until they came to a cliff, then climbed around on the back side until they reached the summit. After having lunch, the adults told the boys to wait there, and then left to go exploring. After an hour, the boys became impatient, and the seventeen-year-old left, leaving young Mike there alone. Mike said:</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“It was a cold fall day, and the afternoon was getting late. I shouted to see if anyone would answer. There was no response, so I decided to go back the way I came. Our vehicles were just below the ridge.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Leaving the ridge in the direction I thought would take me down, I soon found myself on the edge of the cliff. A small draw appeared to offer a way to get down, so I started to climb down it. Jumping off a large rock, I landed on a crevice that became a dead end. I couldn’t go forward, and the rock I had jumped off was too high for me to climb back up.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Stretching to reach the top of the rock, I grabbed something and lifted—it gave way and I fell. My fall down the cliff was about 250 feet. There was no feel when I landed; I don’t remember the fall or when I landed.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“The next thing I knew I was standing looking at myself on the ground. It was dark outside and starting to snow…and it was a strange scene as I tried to contemplate what had happened to me. The really peculiar thing was that while I could see my body lying on the ground, I…the real <em>I</em>, was standing with my feet about six inches off the ground.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“There was a sense of floating, and the realization came that I must be dead&#8230;.I leaned close to my body and reached out to touch it. My hand, and it was a hand, went right through my body lying on the ground. It was a shock.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Suddenly I felt myself being drawn into the sky. The stars went by until there were no more; then I entered a tunnel of light and my speed seemed to accelerate. Eventually I cam to a black void—there was no light at all. Wondering what was happening, I put my hand in front of my face, but I could see nothing.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“While I was in this black void&#8230;.I could hear the people that I had gone hunting with calling me. It was very strange. I knew I had left the earth, yet I could hear them calling my name.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Coming out of nowhere, while I was puzzling the whole situation, a giant cone of light appeared. It was off in the distance, and I started going toward it. During this whole period I continued to hear my friends calling me, but since I didn’t know where they were I kept moving to the light.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Something in the light seemed more important to me than anything else&#8230;.more important than my friends calling me. I was drawn to it.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“When I reached the edge of the light, I could see the shape of a human in it. A man in the light reached out his hand, and I reached to touch him. Upon touching him, I knew immediately who He was. The confusion that I had felt, and every fear, left me.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“This wonderful Being called me by a name, not my earthly name, but some other name. I knew He was addressing me, but it was not a name that I had been called while on earth. I have since forgotten it.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“The Being urged me to enter the light, and He said: ‘Come, I want to show you something.’ He took me up, and we went to another place, a different world bathed in light. Located in a large field was an enormous and beautiful gate. It had jewels on it and it was of a shining golden color. My Guide pointed at it and said: ‘That is the gate to heaven.’</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Next, the Being said: ‘It is not your time, yet, to be here. You must go back.’</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I knew it was the Lord I was with, and I begged to say with Him. He again told me that I had to return. So I asked Him why. His startling declaration was: ‘I’ll show you why.’</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Five figures appeared before me in a bright light. The Lord let me know that one of the figures was I, as an adult; a second figure was my wife, and three smaller figures were my children. I was told by the Lord that one of my future children would perform significant service for Him, and I had to go back so that His purposes could be fulfilled.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“That was the end of the experience. The Lord took me by the hand and brought me back.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“When I regained consciousness, it was morning. It was hard to walk, but I scooted down the hill&#8230;.The Search and Rescue team had been looking for me&#8230;.When they got to me they put me on a stretcher and took me to the hospital&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“[Now, about Jesus]…He was in a white robe, He was transparent, and He was very bright&#8230;.There was an overpowering love coming from Him to me&#8230;.There is no experience in life that can duplicate what I experienced there in His presence&#8230;.the love and the comfort that He gave. He was radiantly beautiful&#8230;.He showed me the nail prints in his hands&#8230;.They were on his wrists&#8230;.There was music, and there were angels&#8230;.thousands of angels, dressed in white robes&#8230;.They were kneeling down with their arms outstretched, and they were singing&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“When [I was] told to go back, [I] didn’t…want to go&#8230;.As far as me missing my mom, or my friends, or my dad, that didn’t seem to matter. Nothing could replace the feeling that I had when I was with [Jesus], and I didn’t want to leave” <span style="color: #800080;">(<em>Journeys Beyond Life</em>, compiled by Arvin S. Gibson, [Horizon Publishers, 1994], pp. 32-38)</span>.</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) MARSHALL from Utah Marshall had a massive heart attack, and then later described what happened to him as a spirit-guide took him on a journey: “…I found myself walking in a completely different sphere. It was beautiful beyond description and we were walking on a path&#8230;.It <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-12/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 11)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-11/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><img class=" wp-image-5574 alignleft" title="Jesus-KissingHead" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Jesus-KissingHead.jpg" alt="" width="377" height="491" />MARSHALL from Utah</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em>Marshall had a massive heart attack, and then later described what happened to him as a spirit-guide took him on a journey:</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I found myself walking in a completely different sphere. It was beautiful beyond description and we were walking on a path&#8230;.It was a different world than this one&#8230;.As we walked along the path I noticed a profusion of flowers and trees. They were of a wider variety, and they had many more colors than on earth—or maybe it was that I could see more colors than on earth, I’m not sure.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I noticed someone on the path ahead of us. As we got closer to the individual I could see and feel that he was a magnificent person. I felt overwhelmed as I looked at him. He was bathed in light. [My guide] asked if I knew who [he] was, and I answered yes. It was Jesus Christ.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“When we got close to the Savior, I felt a tremendous love emanating from Him. It’s hard to describe, but you could feel it all around Him. And I felt a similar enormous love for Him. I fell at His feet—not because I thought about it, but I couldn’t stand. I felt an overpowering urge to fall at His feet and worship Him.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…As I knelt there at the feet of this marvelous being I became conscious of my past life being reviewed for me. It seemed to occur in a short period, and I felt the Savior’s love during the entire process. That love was…well, it was everywhere. And it was as if we could communicate with each other without speaking. After a period the Savior reached down and I knew I should stand. As soon as I stood, He left.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“[My guide] next led me to a city. It was a city of light. It was similar to cities on earth in that there were buildings and paths, but the buildings and paths appeared to be built of materials which we consider precious on earth. They looked like marble, and gold, and silver, and other bright materials, only they were different. The buildings and streets seemed to have a sheen and to glow. The entire scene was one of indescribable beauty.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…There was a feeling of love and peace. On earth there always seems to be something…you know how things bother you here. There’s always some problem troubling you—either it’s health, or money, or people, or war—or something. That was missing there. I felt completely at peace, as if there were no problems which were of concern. It wasn’t that there were no challenges. It’s just that everything seemed to be under control. It was such a wonderful feeling that I never wanted to lose it.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“And there was the feeling of love. Love from…from Jesus Christ. It emanated from Him, and it was all around; it was everywhere.”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>ELOISE from Wyoming</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em>“…I remember when I was nine or ten-years-old. I was in bed with rheumatic fever, which I’d had for about three months, and I was very sick. We lived on a corner where there were no lights and no other houses around us. My parents had just taken my brother to the doctor because of something he swallowed, and I was alone and frightened.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“My parents told me to keep the door locked and to say in bed. I was scared and crying, and I remember praying for help. All of a sudden a great light filled the room. Standing there by me in the light was Jesus. He put His hands on my head and I felt this enormous outpouring of love.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Jesus was all dressed in white, and He was very handsome. His eyes were the most wonderful blue, and there was the most warm, wonderful feeling emanating from Him. I don’t remember Him saying anything—just His hands on my head. It seemed that He was there for a long time, and the room was very bright. Then He left, and the room was dark again.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“When my folks came home, I told them what had happened. And they…you know how parents are, they just sort of patted me on the head and told me to go to sleep. They took me in for a test later that week, though, and all of my tests were absolutely wonderful. The doctor said I was almost completely well.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…Jesus…His beautiful face, His countenance, His hair&#8230;.And those wonderful big blue eyes. He had a little beard—and when He put His hands on my head I felt His strength. It was a strength that I felt through my whole body. I’ll never forget the feelings that I had in His presence.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…His clothes&#8230;.they covered His arms down to His wrists, and they were open at His neck a little way. They were flowing…and the room was gold and blue and pink. It was radiant&#8230;.[And] there was…like an aurora coming off of Him. And the feeling. I’ll never forget the feeling of His hands on my head”</span> <span style="color: #800080;">(<em>Journeys Beyond Life</em>, compiled by Arvin S. Gibson, [Horizon Publishers, 1994], pp. 13-14, 19-20)</span><span style="color: #000000;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #666699;">(to be <a title="We Saw Him (part 13)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-13/"><strong>continued</strong>…</a>)</span></p>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) ANN from California “I was approximately twenty-eight when&#8230;.one day I felt quite ill, but I was cleaning up the [construction] trailer [where we lived while my husband was working construction]…I knew I had to or I would be in trouble [with] my husband—he was having emotional <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-11/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 10)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-10/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><img class="alignright  wp-image-5558" title="Runci-JesusPortrait" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Runci-JesusPortrait.jpg" alt="" width="366" height="461" />ANN from California</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em>“I was approximately twenty-eight when&#8230;.one day I felt quite ill, but I was cleaning up the [construction] trailer [where we lived while my husband was working construction]…I knew I had to or I would be in trouble [with] my husband—he was having emotional problems, and he took some of his problems out on me.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…when I first got up [that morning] I felt just fine. Just a little while later, though, I suddenly got this fever and a really weird headache. I didn’t know what it was but I thought it might be the flu so I kept going. In about three hours my head felt awful and my back hurt&#8230;.I had these spasms going up and down my spine&#8230;.I knew something was wrong. My temperature had climbed to over 105 degrees in less than three hours.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I didn’t realize how sick I was. I figured I could keep working and it would go away. At one point I fell down and couldn’t get up, but I kept working on the floor. By this time I couldn’t think properly&#8230;.[and] one of the workers from the project came in and found me&#8230;.he rushed to a phone and called my husband&#8230;.he said I looked like I might be dying.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I didn’t want my husband to see me when I was sick because I was afraid of what he would do. He was abusive to me&#8230;</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“When my husband came…he made me lie down on the couch&#8230;.He took my temperature and checked my other vital signs. [He had some experience in medicine.] Then he took me into the bedroom and put me in bed—he had to lift me onto the bed&#8230;.He also took some blood for a blood test.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I drifted in and out of consciousness and sleep for the next several hours. I remember my husband coming in and going to bed, but it was mostly a haze for those hours, until I awoke and found that I could hardly breathe&#8230;.I knew I was in desperate trouble, and I was kind of afraid. All of a sudden I wasn’t there; I was…floating. It was so fast I didn’t realize what had happened. And the pain—it was gone. There was this tremendous relief&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I looked up and noticed that I was coming up to the ceiling. I remember wondering what was on the other side of the ceiling, and then I went right through. I found myself standing, and still moving up, and I went into this blackness. I traveled in the blackness—sort of like a tunnel—until I came to this person who blocked the way.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…this person [was] standing in the way, and I couldn’t go around so I stopped. The person was in a brilliant, brilliant light. I was fascinated. Even the hair was lit up. It was beautiful. In fact the person was beautiful. It was a man…I didn’t know that men could be that beautiful.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I wondered who he was and He identified Himself as my Savior, Jesus Christ. And…I had this joy…welling up inside of me. It was like an explosion going on in me.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Then He said, almost immediately, that I had to go back&#8230;.I cried to Him: ‘No, please.’&#8230;</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I pleaded with Him. I didn’t want to go back. There was the pain I had just been in…it was far beyond anything I could handle.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…and the other reason was that life had become just plain hell for me&#8230;.because of [my] husband&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…I pled with Him and He held me for a while. I don’t know how long I pleaded and begged…then I knew that He was feeling my sorrow and pain.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Suddenly I felt this tremendously powerful…it’s beyond words…I was suddenly enveloped in this deep, deep peace. It surrounded me, enveloped me, and He said: ‘If you will go back I will put you immediately to sleep and when you wake you will be completely healed. And the pain will be gone.’</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Well, I stopped crying, and I thought for a few moments. I looked at Him and I knew that this was an absolute promise if I did what He said. I knew this was my Savior, and He was asking me…He was giving me the choice. I bowed my head and said that I would, and that very powerful peace stayed with me. It finally penetrated into my heart; I relaxed and turned around.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I went again into the darkness, and I came out under the ceiling of my room. I stopped and looked and I could see&#8230;.my husband sleeping and my own body next to him. My husband was breathing but my body was motionless&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I knew that was my body, yet the real me was up near the ceiling. That thing down on the bed…repulsed me. But I could feel the presence of my Savior, so I went over to my body and turned around. Then I settled down into it, sitting up. I hesitated in this position because I really didn’t want to complete it. I was afraid I would feel that awful pain again—yet I felt reassurance from Him&#8230;.that it would be all right.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I lay back and…that terrible pain hit. I gasped because of the awful severity of the pain. Then instantly I was out; before I could take another breath I was unconscious. It was so fast that the next morning when I woke I realized I hadn’t even had a chance to think.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I awakened the next morning with a feeling of complete peace. The fever was broken, my body was covered with sweat, and there was no pain&#8230;.I knew what had happened. I remembered back—and I prayed—and gave thanks to my Heavenly Father and to my Savior.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“In my prayer I promised to do what I had to in order to live on, because there had to be a purpose. He had told me, and I remembered that my missions were not finished&#8230;.when I had gone to the other side I was pregnant with another child. I had to return for that purpose as well as my other children” <span style="color: #800080;">(<em>Journeys Beyond Life</em>, compiled by Arvin S. Gibson, [Horizon Publishers, 1994], pp. 67-75)</span>.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #666699;">(to be <a title="We Saw Him (part 12)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-12/"><strong>continued</strong>…</a>)</span></p>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) DEBBIE from Illinois “Before I joined the Air Force, I had braces on my teeth. In order to be allowed in boot-camp I had to remove the braces&#8230;.however…after basic training the Air Force [said they] would continue my treatment. “After my first duty…[a] military dentist on <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-10/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 9)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-9/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><img class="alignright  wp-image-5546" title="Jesus-GregOlsen" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Jesus-GregOlsen.jpg" alt="" width="384" height="490" />DEBBIE from Illinois</strong><em><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em></em></em>“Before I joined the Air Force, I had braces on my teeth. In order to be allowed in boot-camp I had to remove the braces&#8230;.however…after basic training the Air Force [said they] would continue my treatment.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“After my first duty…[a] military dentist on the base…examined me&#8230;.he scheduled me for cosmetic surgery…to correct a severe overbite problem.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“They flew me to Texas, where the surgery was to take place&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“The doctors were nice to me, and they gave me a complete physical before the operation, which they said would take six hours&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“A number of complications arose during the surgery. They put a tube down me, and that apparently caused severe bleeding in an ulcer in my esophagus. The worst problem, though, was from the anesthetic. It turned out that I was allergic to it, and I went into cardiac arrest during the operation. They were able to restart my heart using resuscitation techniques, but in the process they ruptured my diaphragm.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“While the doctors were having these problems I suddenly felt warmth all around me, and I knew that somebody was holding me. The area I was in was surrounded by light.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“It felt as though I was being cradled by someone, and when I saw all this light, I looked around to see what was happening. As I lifted my head I found myself looking into the eyes of Christ. He was carrying me, as a child would be carried, in a cradling fashion.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“There was no fear and no pain, just a feeling of lightness and security—and I kept staring at Him. He was walking with me; then, strangely, He carried me through a wall, or something, and we went from the light into darkness.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Christ’s lips never moved, but He communicated with me, and He asked: ‘Do you know where you are? Look around the room.’</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Looking around, as He directed, I saw that we were in the hospital room and He was carrying me toward my body. The darkness frightened me, and I looked back at Christ’s face where there was light. Looking at Him calmed me, and then I noticed that we were again moving toward my body.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Having a sense that I would have to return to my body, I asked Him repeatedly, ‘Why? Why?’</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“In a soothing way He told me that it was not my time yet. While He stood there holding me, I could see my body plainly. But at the same time, I knew I had a semblance of a body, or a spirit body, that Christ was holding. And I could feel His strength while He held me.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“When He went to lay me down into my body, I tried to resist by grabbing at Him. Crying desperately, I kept repeating: ‘Please don’t. I don’t want to go back.’</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Struggling with my emotions, and crying continuously, I asked Him what I must do. He smiled at me and responded: ‘Shhh, everything will be all right.’ My gaze was riveted on Him, and He began backing away.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Christ was moving slowly in a gentle manner, but, as I cried, I wanted Him to stay and talk to me. He addressed me again, saying: ‘Keep focused—stay focused!’</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“Then the light sort of followed Him out of my room. He was gone&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“His hair was long…with a nice wave in it. He was bearded with a smooth face, and His eyes…His eyes were the bluest blue I had ever seen; they were a clear see-through blue. There was warmth, there was love, there was compassion in His eyes. I couldn’t look away from Him&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“There was light all around Him; it actually stood off of Him. It was an energy&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“He understood me, and He loved me—it was a love that I had not felt previously nor have I felt it since, anyplace on earth&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“With Christ, I finally found peace.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“What was [my] other body like? That’s hard to explain, because I was in full body. There were limbs, and I knew Christ was carrying me. But it was without the bulk I had normally felt in my earthly body. I felt light, and I also felt as though I had light around me. When He placed me back in my body, it was as if this light, transparent something was entering a bulky body.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“When [I] saw [my] body&#8230;.I didn’t want it&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I didn’t want to leave&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“I was deliriously happy while I was there. I never wanted to return here. Later, when I was back, I was ashamed at the way I clung to Christ and cried while He brought me to my body. It must have been hard on Him to have to return me under those circumstances.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">“…In that environment of love, and in my innocence at the time, I was fed up with the world and its mixture of hypocrisy, hate, envy and pain. I still feel that way. My anger at returning to this cruel world spills over at times, and the only relief I get is from prayer. Praying long and hard is my solution” <span style="color: #800080;">(<em>Journeys Beyond Life</em>, compiled by Arvin S. Gibson, [Horizon Publishers, 1994], pp. 176-181)</span>.</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from last week…) SEGUNDO MOLDANADO During the 1970’s Fred Bohman, who was a purchasing agent for the LDS Church in South America, was living with his young family in Quito, Ecuador. It was there that he met Segundo Moldanado in a marketplace. After discovering that they were both Latter-day <p class="more-class clear"><a class="more-link" href="https://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-8/"><span>Read more</span></a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #666699;">(Continued from <a title="We Saw Him (part 7)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-7/"><strong>last week</strong></a>…)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><img class="alignleft  wp-image-5506" title="Jesus-Mabry-Resurrection" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Jesus-Mabry-Resurrection.jpg" alt="" width="420" height="584" />SEGUNDO MOLDANADO</strong><em><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em>During the 1970’s Fred Bohman, who was a purchasing agent for the LDS Church in South America, was living with his young family in Quito, Ecuador. It was there that he met Segundo Moldanado in a marketplace. After discovering that they were both Latter-day Saints, they struck up a friendship. Fred tells us what happened…</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Segundo Moldanado and I became friends, not terribly close friends because he lived in Octavalo, a six-hour journey from Quito. But there was an immediate liking and trust between us, though we spent little time together.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Several months later my wife Mary and I lost our first son. He was seven months old when he suffocated in his bed. We were sick with grief and guilt, wondering what we might have done to prevent his death.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">It was at this very unhappy time that Segundo and his wife made the six-hour journey to Quito to see us. He said they had come to tell us of their conversion to the gospel and about the death of their son. They thought that by sharing their experiences with us we might find comfort and strength and a stronger faith in the afterlife.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Because they were Indians and [were] used to speaking their native language, their Spanish was broken, but it was good enough for Mary and me to understand clearly what they were saying.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">…Not long after Segundo had joined the church, he was in the marketplace one day, when his oldest son began screaming because of a terrible pain in his head. Within a few hours the son was dead.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Segundo and his wife were beside themselves with grief. One moment they wondered what they might have done to deserve this, the next they were angry with the Lord for allowing something so cruel and seemingly senseless to happen to their son.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">They began fasting, determined to find out why it happened. They received no answer during an entire week of fasting. But they did not stop. They were determined to continue until they had an answer.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">It was during the second week of the fast, while they were kneeling together in their hut, that it happened. The whole side of the house suddenly disappeared and they found themselves looking out into a beautiful garden full of flowers, trees, green grasses—the most beautiful place they had ever seen, but totally unfamiliar.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">As they looked into the beautiful garden they saw their son who had died running towards them. He ran up to his parents, threw his arms around Segundo, saying, “Don’t worry about me. I had no choice but to go back.”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Then they looked up and saw another man standing in a white robe, who said, “Segundo, you have a righteous desire to know the fate of your son. The Lord has heard your prayers.” This man, who showed them the wounds in his hands and feet, taught them for an hour or so until the vision or dream ended, and the walls of the house closed in as they had been before.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">After relating the story of…the death of his son, Segundo looked at me and said, “Fred, I know where your son is. He is with ours. He has specific tasks to perform. Don’t worry.”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Somehow my wife and I found comfort in those words. Thanks to Segundo we were able to believe more firmly that our son had not really died, but just passed on to a different kingdom where he needed to be” <span style="color: #800080;">(<em>Beyond the Veil</em>, vol. 2, comp. by Lee Nelson, 1996, pp. 95-101)</span>.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>KATIE from Idaho</strong><em><em><em><em><strong><br />
</strong></em></em></em></em>Back in the 1980s, a little seven-year-old girl named Katie from Idaho drowned in a YMCA pool, and was resuscitated and kept alive in the hospital by machines—she was in a deep coma, had massive swelling on the brain, and an artificial lung was breathing for her. Miraculously, three days later she woke up, and in twenty-four hours, made a full recovery. In a follow-up examination, the doctor asked her, “What do you remember about being in the swimming pool?” Katie said: “Do you mean when I visited the Heavenly Father?” Later, Katie told this doctor that a tall and nice bright lady took her to meet the Heavenly Father and Jesus. “The Heavenly Father asked [her] if she wanted to go home. Katie cried. She said she wanted to stay with <em>him</em>. Then Jesus asked her if she wanted to see her mother again. ‘Yes,’ she replied. Then [Katie woke up]” <span style="color: #800080;">(Melvin Morse, <em>Closer To The Light</em>, 1990, pp. 1-6)</span>.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #666699;">(to be <a title="We Saw Him (part 9)" href="http://kennethcope.com/we-saw-him-part-9/"><strong>continued</strong>…</a>)</span></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #000000;">I have often found myself on a plane heading somewhere and have discovered for myself that these are marvelous times to read out of the best books. Not only does it make the time go by quickly but it also usually ends up being uninterrupted time—the best time for reading, and something rather rare in our fast pace, calendar crammed world.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">In late November, 2000, I was on a flight from Houston, Texas, headed for Cleveland, Ohio. It was mid afternoon, and with a couple of good hours ahead of me, I pulled out a beloved book, <em>The Pursuit of God</em>, by a beloved Christian writer, A. W. Tozer. I had recently started the book and found it to be loaded with wonderful gems. We were above the clouds and I felt the Spirit of God as I contemplated the beautifully communicated truths I read therein. Around 5:00 p.m. I came to the following:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“<strong>A spiritual kingdom lies all about</strong> <strong>us</strong>, enclosing us, embracing us, altogether <strong>within reach of our inner selves, waiting for us to recognize it</strong>. God Himself is here waiting&#8230;.This eternal world will come alive to us the moment we begin to reckon upon its reality&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“Our trouble is that <strong>we have established bad thought habits</strong>. <strong>We habitually think of the visible world as real and doubt the reality of any other</strong>. We do not deny the existence of the spiritual world but [we do not treat it as real].</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“<strong>The world of sense intrudes upon our attention day and night</strong> for the whole of our lifetime. It is clamorous [and] insistent&#8230;.<strong>It does not appeal to our faith</strong>; it is here,<strong> assaulting our five senses, demanding to be accepted as real and final</strong>. But <strong>sin has so clouded the lenses of our hearts that we cannot see that other reality, the city of God, shining around us</strong>. The world of sense triumphs. <strong>The visible becomes the enemy of the invisible</strong>&#8230;.That is the curse inherited by every member of Adam’s tragic race….</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“<strong>Our uncorrected thinking…tends to draw a contrast between the spiritual and the real—but actually no such contrast exists</strong>&#8230;.<strong>The spiritual is real</strong>&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“<strong>We must shift our interest from the seen to the unseen</strong>&#8230;.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“<strong>The ‘other world,’</strong> which is the object of this world’s disdain&#8230;<strong>is our carefully chosen goal and the object of our holiest longing</strong>.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“<strong>But we must avoid the common fault of pushing the ‘other world’ into the future. It is not future, but present. It parallels our familiar physical world, and the doors between the two worlds are open.</strong>”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-4869" title="SalmonClouds" src="http://kennethcope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SalmonClouds.jpg" alt="" width="587" height="293" />At this point in my flight, I paused and looked out the window to reflect upon these things. The sun was low in the western sky, close to begin its setting beyond the blanket of clouds just below the plane. A radiant salmon colored hue highlighted the cloudy white layer. It was beautiful. As I continued to reflect, the plane began to descend into the opaque layer of clouds and the glorious view of the wonderfully lit sky slowly disappeared.  As we descended further and came out of the clouds, it was a whole different feeling. Beneath the cloudy ceiling, the sky was gray and foreboding, the sun’s light obscured from view. Everything felt so gloomy below that powerfully opaque layer of clouds. What an object lesson! The timing couldn’t have been more perfect for such a visual aid! Within a matter of minutes I had been a traveler in both worlds: one glorious, peaceful and full of light; the other dark, foreboding and full of anything but light. Both worlds existed at the same time and yet both were completely separate from each other.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">And so it is with that glorious spiritual world and our darkened world of touch, sound and sight. Why is it that hearing we hear, but do not understand?—and seeing we see, but do not perceive? Have our hearts grown lazy and our ears dull of hearing? Have we closed our eyes to that vibrant spiritual world?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Tozer continues with these words:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“<strong>The <em>soul</em> has eyes with which to see and ears with which to hear. Feeble they may be from long disuse</strong>, <strong>but by the life-giving touch of Christ they are</strong>…<strong>capable of [the] sharpest sight and most sensitive hearing</strong>.”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">He then concludes the chapter with this prayer:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800080;">“<strong><em>O God</em></strong>&#8230;.<strong><em>Open my eyes that I may see</em></strong>&#8230;.<strong><em>Make heaven more real to me than any earthly thing has ever been</em></strong>.”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">And I passionately add my “Amen!”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #666699;">(See<em> The Pursuit of God</em>. Camp Hill, PA: Christian Publications, Inc., 1993, pp. 48-54.)</span></p>
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